Crisis Management on Demand

On This Episode:

This is a super fun episode where we welcome Mark Gabot, DNP, CRNA, FAANA on the show as a cohost. Mark and Jeremy presented at the 2023 AANA Annual Congress in Seattle and recorded this episode at the same time. They call it “Crisis Management On-Demand” because as a recorded episode both students and CRNAs can access it whenever and whenever they want!

Jeremy and Mark talk about how we think during a crisis, the unconscious biases that exist and they focus on a cognitive template for crisis management that can help formulate a working diagnosis of the perioperative problem, and then zero in on appropriate management. For more detailed information on this cognitive template refer back to our June 13, 2023 episode “Managing Perioperative Crises with a Cognitive Template”.

They also have some fun with some guests in the audience and invite them up on stage to talk more about their areas of expertise. Jeremy and Mark first invite one of the authors of the published Cognitive Template article (Lisa Osborne-Smith, PhD, CRNA, FAANA) up on stage to talk more about the utilization of the template. They next invite the Cormac O’Sullivan, PhD, CRNA, ARBP, FAANA to talk about simulated crises at the AANA Annual Congress. Finally, they invite both Sharon Pearce, DNP, CRNA, FAANA and Jeremy Stanley, EA, CFP®, AIF® up on stage to talk about the origins of the Beyond the Mask Podcast. 

Here are some of the things we’ll discuss in this episode:

  • How we develop our own mental model of what to follow in terms of treating a patient.
  • The two modes of thinking when we make rapid decisions.
  • The research on cognitive errors and biases.
  • Background on the cognitive template article from Oregon Health & Science University.
  • Simulation training with Dr. Cormac O’Sullivan.
  • Background on the Beyond the Mask Podcast and how it got started.


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Now for every single practitioner, that process is going to look a little bit different based on our training, our education, as well as our clinical experience that we’ve developed over time. But at the end of the day, we’ve all developed our own mental model of what to follow in terms of treating that patient.





CRNA Careers

Nurturing Knowledge with Thanks

As we celebrate another Thanksgiving, we want to show our appreciation for an organization that does so much for CRNAs. Many people don’t know about the AANA Foundation’s purpose and why it’s important to individual CRNAs working in the OR, but they play a critical role in supporting and growing the profession. Today we’ll spend time with Executive Director Nat Carmichael and Treasurer Mike Anderson, DNP, CRNA to learn more about the best kept secret in our profession.

CRNA Careers

Advocacy in Nurse Anesthesiology Training with Dr. Kristie Hoch

We pose the question to guests all the time about how to get more CRNAs involved on the advocacy side of the profession, but today’s guest is taking a hands-on approach to instilling that mindset at the educational level. Dr. Kristie Hoch has taken her passion for advocacy and applied it to the nurse anesthesiology program at the University of Arizona. Together with co-host Tracy Castleman, DNP, CRNA, APN-A, FAANA, we will hear all about her training process and why she thinks this leadership training will pay off in all aspects of their careers.




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J. Cross CRNA
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This podcast is very well put together. I love the hosts Sharon & Jeremy, they do a fantastic job at presenting topics as well as getting great speakers on the show! This is my morning commute podcast everyday! Thank you for all that you do!
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I enjoy listening every morning. Great content and always a pleasure to learn something new.
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I started listening to this podcast religiously early on in my CRNA journey, a year before applying to CRNA school. The content in this podcast was one of my most helpful resources for getting into my first choice school, Wake Forest! It has also been a huge motivator for getting involved with the AANA now and throughout my career. I highly recommend this podcast to every prospective CRNA I meet.
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I appreciate hearing the latest and greatest in the world of Nurse Anesthesiology while also getting Class B credits. Just listen on your commute for a win/win experience. I love the perspectives from Jeremy and Sharon who both ask varied and insightful questions!
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If you’re a CRNA or any medical professional, I highly recommend giving this podcast a listen. Hosts have a great rapport.