Ep 184: CRNA Manpower – Trends from the Past Decade & a Look Into the Future (Part 2)


Today we’re continuing the conversation with Nancy Bruton-Maree, CRNA, and Sandy Ouellette, CRNA, on the history of CRNAs in the workforce. In part two, we’ll look at educational changes since 2010 along with the updated statistics on active professionals and students. We’ll also turn our attention to the future of anesthesia and discuss the trends that might be on the horizon.  

Check out the timestamps below to help you navigate through the many topics we discussed.

On This Episode:

On our last episode, we began a conversation about the history of CRNAs in the workforce and a critical time in the 80s and 90s when manpower dropped and changes needed to be made.

Today we continue that discussion with show historians, Nancy Bruton-Maree, CRNA, and Sandy Ouellette, CRNA, but the focus shifts to the years since 2010. With all of the studies published through the 90s and 2000s, what did it mean for the workforce over the past decade? Plus, what trends will take place in the coming years and decades as anesthesia continues to evolve?

We’ll discuss all that on this episode and we’ll all weigh in on what we think the workforce might look like for CRNAs in the future.

So as you listen to the episode, keep an ear out for these topics:

  • Why there hasn’t been a comprehensive AANA manpower study published in nearly 15 years.
  • Educational programs on the rise over the past 10 years or so.
  • Statistics on the total number of CRNAs, students, and what that could mean for supply and demand.
  • The interesting findings from the 2019 Merritt Hawkins whitepaper on supply and demand.
  • The reasons why CRNAs leave and what are the motivating factors.
  • Trends that have been identified for the future of the profession and our thoughts on their likelihood.
  • What does the future of anesthesia look like in Nancy and Sandy’s opinion?

Check out the interview at the top of the page and use the timestamps to help you navigate through the many topics we discussed.

[2:14] – No studies in last 13 years

[3:19] – Doctoral programs

[4:18] – Total number of CRNAs

[7:39] – 2019 Merritt Hawkins whitepaper

[15:32] – Why do CRNAs leave?

[17:44] – 10 trends for the future

[29:42] – Where does Nancy and Sandy see things going?

[31:07] – Healthcare expenses out of control

[35:28] – Wrapping up the conversation

“I think in some ways we’ll go back to the way that it used to be but it will be going back there with a lot more technology, a lot more knowledge, a lot of different ways to handle anesthesia that will make it safer.”

-Sandy Ouellette, CRNA





CRNA Careers

Ep 200: Exploring the Power of Nursing and Its Future Impact on Healthcare

As we celebrate the release of our 200th episode, it seemed fitting to shine the spotlight on the profession as a whole and the people who devote their lives to helping others. Many CRNAs, and nurses in general, don’t give themselves enough credit for the work they do every day. So today we’re going to take a big picture look at the power of nursing and the innovation we’re doing that could change healthcare with Rebecca Love, RN, MSN, FIEL.

CRNA History

Ep 199: Olive Berger, CRNA – Founding Member of the AANA

The early years of anesthesia were a time when nurses proved just how valuable they were as this new world was being explored. Olive Berger, CRNA was one of the women that rose to the occasion and helped shape the profession through her work with ‘blue babies’ and with the AANA. Today we look back on her career with show historians Nancy Bruton-Maree, CRNA and Sandy Ouellette, CRNA.




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