Ep 184: CRNA Manpower – Trends from the Past Decade & a Look Into the Future (Part 2)


Today we’re continuing the conversation with Nancy Bruton-Maree, CRNA, and Sandy Ouellette, CRNA, on the history of CRNAs in the workforce. In part two, we’ll look at educational changes since 2010 along with the updated statistics on active professionals and students. We’ll also turn our attention to the future of anesthesia and discuss the trends that might be on the horizon.  

Check out the timestamps below to help you navigate through the many topics we discussed.

On This Episode:

On our last episode, we began a conversation about the history of CRNAs in the workforce and a critical time in the 80s and 90s when manpower dropped and changes needed to be made.

Today we continue that discussion with show historians, Nancy Bruton-Maree, CRNA, and Sandy Ouellette, CRNA, but the focus shifts to the years since 2010. With all of the studies published through the 90s and 2000s, what did it mean for the workforce over the past decade? Plus, what trends will take place in the coming years and decades as anesthesia continues to evolve?

We’ll discuss all that on this episode and we’ll all weigh in on what we think the workforce might look like for CRNAs in the future.

So as you listen to the episode, keep an ear out for these topics:

  • Why there hasn’t been a comprehensive AANA manpower study published in nearly 15 years.
  • Educational programs on the rise over the past 10 years or so.
  • Statistics on the total number of CRNAs, students, and what that could mean for supply and demand.
  • The interesting findings from the 2019 Merritt Hawkins whitepaper on supply and demand.
  • The reasons why CRNAs leave and what are the motivating factors.
  • Trends that have been identified for the future of the profession and our thoughts on their likelihood.
  • What does the future of anesthesia look like in Nancy and Sandy’s opinion?

Check out the interview at the top of the page and use the timestamps to help you navigate through the many topics we discussed.

[2:14] – No studies in last 13 years

[3:19] – Doctoral programs

[4:18] – Total number of CRNAs

[7:39] – 2019 Merritt Hawkins whitepaper

[15:32] – Why do CRNAs leave?

[17:44] – 10 trends for the future

[29:42] – Where does Nancy and Sandy see things going?

[31:07] – Healthcare expenses out of control

[35:28] – Wrapping up the conversation

“I think in some ways we’ll go back to the way that it used to be but it will be going back there with a lot more technology, a lot more knowledge, a lot of different ways to handle anesthesia that will make it safer.”

-Sandy Ouellette, CRNA






Ep 226: The Need for More State Nurse Legislators

We talk all the time about the lack of nurse representation in policy-making positions, but that doesn’t make the data any less surprising. Today we’ll have a great discussion with Darlene Curley, EdD, RN, FAAN, about a study she recently completed on state nurse legislators. She’ll share some of the details with us in this episode and we’ll also have a wide-ranging discussion on how CRNAs and other nurses can continue increasing their involvement.  

Current Events

Ep 225: An Inside Look at Lobbying for Your State Association

During our visit to the NCANA meeting last fall, we had the opportunity to host a live podcast about lobbying for your state association and we had the pleasure of bringing NCANA lobbyists Patrick Ballantine and Tracy Kimbrell onto the panel with us. Both of them have been tremendous assets to our association because of their passion for lobbying. We explored that role to find out what skills it takes, how to utilize a lobbyist, and what you should expect from them.


Ep 224: ASA 2022 Difficult Airway Algorithm Update

The American Society of Anesthetists initially released the Difficult Airway Algorithm in 1993 to provide a guide for managing a patient with a difficult airway. It has been updated every 10 years since with the fourth iteration being released in January 2022.
The latest update has a number of key changes that Jeremy and Sass will take you through in this episode of the podcast.




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